The Debate: Was referee Cuneyt Cakir right to send off Nani? - Live coverage - The Independent

The Debate: Was referee Cuneyt Cakir right to send off Nani?

The results are in - click through to page 3 to see the final results - and see below what readers of The Independent made of the decision...

  • Now that I've calmed down, I would honestly say that the ref's decision was spot on. Nani was extremely unlucky because it wasn't intentional. But that doesn't mean he should get away with the tackle
    3/5/2013 10:10:45 PM
  • Nani's eyes were solely on the ball and I believe he even pulled back a bit after realising he had made contact with the player. No intent whatsoever, yellow card tops and no doubt the ref will realise his error when he sees the replay.
    3/5/2013 10:10:53 PM
  • That was a slightly reckless move to make, but by no means a red card! Anyone who knows football knows that that was a terribly wrong call by the referee! Once again, an otherwise brilliant game ruined by a poor call by an inept referee. Still, fact remains that United played incredibly well, and even with 10 men, it was clear they were the stronger team!
    3/5/2013 10:11:03 PM
  • Nani was aiming fro the ball, any injury that came out of it was unintentional. It may be dangerous having your foot that high and that could aim towards a possible yellow, but nani didn't know he was there! That's like saying Ibrahimovic should of got a red for doing a bicycle kick! There was no serious injury in the end, but that is no where near a red card! Submitting a red card is serious. It is brought on to players for dangerous play, serious injuring, foul play or just the fact they've got two yellow cards.
    3/5/2013 10:12:39 PM
  • Horrible decision in a game of this magnitude. Cüneyt Çakır demonstrated poor judgement in flashing a straight red. There was no intent on Nani's part to do anything other than to play the ball. Arbeloa could have just as easily avoided the contact as he had a full view of what was developing. It was a hard football foul: yellow, sure, but red! Horrible call that took much away from what would have been a great match - both sides being equal.
    3/5/2013 10:12:48 PM
  • Nani deliberately kicked the opposite player. His lying on the ground for no apparent reason is an admission of guilt. He could not fool the Turk though.
    3/5/2013 10:12:59 PM
  • Cüneyt Çakır was in my mind at least 100% wrong to send Nani off like that. He spoiled a great spectators game and made it a game full of controversy. Though I give my full respect to the rest of the officials who did their best to be fair, but I have NO respect for Cüneyt Çakır.
    3/5/2013 10:13:12 PM
  • The question is was the challenge by Nani, dangerous play, a reckless challenge or a challenge with excessive force?
    Dangerous play = indirect free-kick and yellow card. Reckless Challenge = Yellow Card.
    3/5/2013 10:15:49 PM
  • I am dissapointed he ruined a beautiful game because of his mistake, He single handedly cost Man U the match and he deserves to be punished by EUFA for what he did ypu could clearly see that it wasn't Nani's intention to kick the player he was going for the ball :-(
    3/5/2013 10:16:07 PM
  • I think it was such a sad and disappointing end to what was such an interesting and exciting game!! Nani was clearly going for the ball, there was no intention, I could have understood a yellow card, but red card ended the game!! There should be changes to try and stop these type of decisions that end up making the games decided by the referee and not the skills of the footballers!! After huge decisions like these the referees should be made to make a statement to defend their decisions like most professions would need to do in other professions!!
    3/5/2013 10:16:23 PM
  • He was right to send him off. First, Nani played directly to the body of Arbeloa which 100% yellow card. But Linesman and Cakir saw how he started to simulated as if Arbeloa played harsh against him (which was not the case). Simulation is usually a yellow card. Thus he waited, consulted and then joined two fouls into red card. Be very objective.
    3/5/2013 10:16:43 PM
  • I'm not a man u supporter but there you can't give a red card at this moment for this situation. Unbelievable mistake of Cüneyt Çakır ! as resumle perfectly mourinho "the best team lost". I'm very disapointed
    3/5/2013 10:16:54 PM
  • We are heading towards a game where you must run and jump with your hands behind your back and you cannot lift your foot higher than knee level if you are within a a yard of another player.... Unfortunately this referee has made a mistake that potentially lost a team £20m. Inept referees should not be given games they cannot handle.
    3/5/2013 10:17:10 PM
  • One could argue that the referee didn't have the luxury of a 50 inch TV with slow-motion replays to see whether Nani had the intent or not in raising his leg like that. However, Cakir failed to handle the situation well. He failed to read the atmosphere and the context and I don't think he even talked his assistants about it either. He destroyed a wonderful occasion- a champions league knockout stage match, ronaldo returns to OT, Giggs plays his 1000th match.
    3/5/2013 10:17:27 PM
  • it was a 100% unintentional challenge, nani was just looking at the ball not at Arbeola. You cannot sendoff a person for trying to control the ball in mid air. That was stupid of the refree.
    3/5/2013 10:17:36 PM
  • He ruined the game in a spectacular way.His mistake cost man u dearly and i think he should be punished by uefa
    3/5/2013 10:18:16 PM
  • We've had over a thousand votes so far. Around a quarter of you think the referee got it right. The poll is still open so please cast your vote to let us know what you think.
    3/5/2013 10:24:09 PM
  • Yellow is right. Not red...!!! The ref should be very clear to see whats happening before he reach the red card to all games. As he was miles away from the incidents that he should first ask the linesman. He was absolutely wrong decision made to Nani. He should be punish from The board.
    3/5/2013 10:24:23 PM
  • it was 100% unintentional nani was definitely looking at ball. dangerous play? yes but red card? definitely no. The ref totally ruined the game and it took years to watch man united vs real madrid.
    3/5/2013 10:24:32 PM
  • High, dangerous feet. 'Tis but the rules. Ergo, the ref was right.
    3/5/2013 10:24:35 PM
  • @Philip correct sir, referees from smaller leagues should not be given knockout round games, they just cant deal with it, he hasnt gone there to oversee a game, he;s gone there to make a name for himself.... ill be surprised if he referees another utd game ever...
    3/5/2013 10:24:43 PM
  • The only question is the timing of the call. The red was a bit harsh ... but certainly not an atrocious call.
    3/5/2013 10:24:58 PM
  • It's a shame. World class match with spectators from all over the world was ruined by one man. It's a shame really. I think he deserves punishment and UEFA should take away his license. He should learn in the academy again.
    3/5/2013 10:25:09 PM
  • according to the laws of the game there has to be clear intent to injure the player for it to be a red card, and there clearly was no intent on Nani's part as he was totally focused on reaching the ball. A yellow could not have been argued about for reckless play but its clearly not a red card. One may even argue that the player collided with Nani's foot. Its clear that not even Real MAdrid player thought it was even a dangerous tackle because there was absolutely no protest and no attemt to persuade the referee to even produce a card.
    3/5/2013 10:25:28 PM
  • The debate the ref should have had with himself is was the high foot intention& reckless or not. Nani's eyes were on the ball. My opinion is the ref got it all very wrong with his cards. Spoilt a decent free flowing& very tactical game.
    3/5/2013 10:26:08 PM
  • Careless and reckless, but certainly not excessive force and therefore a yellow card. Ruined a brilliant and balanced game.
    3/5/2013 10:26:15 PM
  • I was a proponent of real madrid team, we do not want this kind of match, the two teams are the best teams and should match the fair and managed by the best. The judges' decision in this match very disturbing game both teams, uefa may take appropriate action in this match referee's decision
    3/5/2013 10:26:43 PM
  • such a shame. it was a beautiful game before that, no aggressive foul play, just great football, a great match and a brilliant game. Ref was dead wrong. Such a shame. I don't think even Real Madrid wanted that red card, no one wants to win like that. Not at this level.
    3/5/2013 10:27:59 PM
  • Very well deserved. Karate Kid Nani kicked out after he made contact THEN started rolling around on the ground falsely and unnecessarily . Nothing much to say, Real scored the 3 goals of the tournament.
    3/5/2013 10:28:16 PM
  • i still think that we should bring replays in to the match. the ref is one man. we can go around saying it was his fault, but the fact is he sees it once and from only one angle. its a difficult job. why can't there be refferees watching screens, informing the ref through mics so that the right desicion is given. The rules will say something, it doesn't say that it counts aslong as the ref sees it. Its just like goal line technology
    3/5/2013 10:28:28 PM
  • Alex Ferguson is reportedly too angry to speak to the media and has also told his players not to speak to the press as well.
    3/5/2013 10:34:25 PM
  • It was physical challenge and Nani did land awkardlyThe level of the match wasn't matched by the ref's ability to make decent decisions I think he was well out of his league. According to the ref Nani. intended to hurt Arbeloa, who could see Nani this was not the case for Nani. Cuneyt Cakir had time to make a correct decision instead he gives the impression of being a bumbling buffon, crooked or just not fit to referee a football match.
    3/5/2013 10:34:34 PM
  • It is so unfortunate that a game involving 22 of the best players in the world will be remembered by an unfortunate decision on the part of the referee.
    3/5/2013 10:34:39 PM
  • Ref ruined a match that was going to go right to the wire. Referees becoming to busy with proving that theyre in control and not enough time on actually trying to let the game run. Roy Keane also
    completely wrong if it is a red card then the game is becoming to soft
    3/5/2013 10:34:44 PM
  • 1. Nani had his eyes on the ball, and couldn't see Arbeloa running towards him. So for those who say it was intentional, check your eye-sight.

    2. I agree it was a foul, whether intentional or not, but worth a Red card? Not in a bloody million years!

    3. None of the Real Madrid players appealed to the referee for showing Nani a yellow card, never mind Red. Watch the replay if you don't believe me.

    4. Jose Mourinho caught up with Sir Alex moments after the sending off, with disbelief and disgust on his face similar to Sir Alex's.

    5. Mourinho in the post-match interview: "We didn't play well, and we didn't deserve to win! But this is football."

    6. Every post-match analysis show hosts agree that a sensational match was ruined by a crazy mistake by the referee!
    3/5/2013 10:34:49 PM
  • Absolutely incredible decision from the Turkish referee. He must have been smoking something because , despite what Roy Keane said, that was never ever ever going to be a red card.
    3/5/2013 10:35:06 PM
  • The refferee has shown a clear breach of the Uefa rules for sending off a player and HAS TO be brought to JUSTICE, disgracefull decision. Why are we not allowed to hear conversation between tje reffereee and the officials? They talk about clamping down on corruption so go ahead CLAMP DOWN ON IT!
    3/5/2013 10:35:27 PM
  • its really starting to be the time to introduce replays at the field as these bad decisions are starting to ruin too many games. theyve already got it in rugby, why cant we have it in football? The games should be decided by the players, not on the refs mood.
    3/5/2013 10:35:35 PM
  • Pathetic decision by the ref! He needs to read through the rules set by uefa! No way did nani intend to harm the player, only went for the ball! Gutted with the result but 'The best team lost'
    3/5/2013 10:35:47 PM
  • Yellow Card Yes. BUT NO WAY WAS IT A DIRECT RED.
    3/5/2013 10:36:34 PM
  • It was an unfortunate moment for Cakir. However, in this situation nor our good intentions or well inspection on TV counts. First of all UEFA has rules. Whether intentional or not it was a head level kick which could have caused a very bad injury. Therefore, in this case i trust Cakir who is trusted and supposed to know rules of the game well and his fellow linesman. This decision is big enough not to be consulted. Cakir did not decide immediately which means he got the approval of his linesman.
    3/5/2013 10:36:46 PM
  • Common sense nil! Intent nil! Another shocking European refereeing performance! English teams are victimised yet again - same old story - would it have happened in Madrid - not a chance!
    3/5/2013 10:37:05 PM
  • Undoubtedly the wrong decision. In the passage of play Nani was simply controlling the ball. You see leaps like that all over the pitch when a player has no-one around him, and clearly, to Nani, he was completely un-aware of the approaching player. It was not dangerous play, there was no intent, no brutality and it wasn't even a challenge. If anything it was accidental and incidental endangerment of another player punishable with a yellow card. If you are giving red cards for that, you are giving red cards for any player which raises his leg above waist height regardless of where there are on the pitch or whether they have an opposing player near to them.
    3/5/2013 10:37:48 PM
  • i think the referee won't be refereeing another big game in his life again after this. shocking performance from a so called elite referee. it was a bad decision. no one in the stadium was expecting that.
    3/5/2013 10:38:31 PM
  • I think it was 50 - 50 ball....so bad decision when Nani sent off in a Big Match like that....
    3/5/2013 10:38:34 PM
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